Thursday, 17 November 2011

Why the 'Poznan' is a wholly appropriate celebration for Man City


I'm making a list, the Wrong-Headed Buffoon list: any pundit, commentator, journalist or fan who uses the phrase 'all credit to Man City' will be on it.

Man City deserve no credit whatsoever. Man City, in fact, don't exist anymore. A collection of footballers (and 'collection' is a good word here, by the way - they could be Picassos or sports cars) play in troublingly familiar light blue shirts in a place called the Etihad Stadium because they are paid ludicrous amounts of money by someone called Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan to do so.

That's not Man City. That's, to use the club's own word, a 'project'. Or, more accurately, a pin in a map. Like Chelsea, City are a pin in a map.

They have not been adopted by an avuncular local businessman who spent his youth on the terraces, and then, when he'd struck it rich, decided, rather romantically, that he could think of no finer way to lose a hundred million or so than by investing it in the team he supports.

And they're not an obvious blue chip target, like Man Utd, Liverpool or, let's face it, Arsenal: a club known all over the world and one that leaps to the front of the mind and the head of the queue if a foreign businessman does want to get involved in all this Premier League excitement.

They're Man City, the comedy club. The y0-yo club. Manchester's real club? Maybe. But now now, now they're a pin in a map.

And I'm not having all that nonsense about 'Yes, but, you can't just win the title by spending money; Mancini's got to build a team, make decisions, etc. All credit to him.'

Nope, you're on the list. There's never been spending like this, it dwarfs even what Chelsea did. Check it out. And that doesn't even take wages into account.

Yes the manager, tactics, team spirit or whatever might be so appalling that they don't win it in the first, second or third season of 'the project', but they will. It's just a matter or time and numbers. Sheer weight of numbers.

So, when (not if) they do win the league, there's no sense in applauding them and no point in berating them. This is how the world works now. This is how success is... um, not 'won', exactly... I know 'arrived at'. This is how success is arrived at.

No, the only response is to turn our backs. Look elsewhere. Let them celebrate and celebrate and congratulate each other. Until they realise no one else is congratulating them; no one else is even watching.

87 comments:

  1. You spurs are so bitter! Jealousy is not a good trait.

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  2. Oh the irony.
    Of stating that everybody should just turn their back and ignore them, but yet feeling the need to write a pointless, unprovoked article and put it in the public domain!

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  3. Of course, Spurs have never benefitted from any benefactors, and have always politely refused help from anyone with any money to invest. If the players are not born within a mile of the ground they are told in no uncertain terms that being good at football and wanting to get paid to provide entertainment to fans is not what the club is about. The club made a stand in the 70's by refusing to bring in Argentinian players just because they had just won the world cup.

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  4. i think the word jealousy springs to mind.you would certainly turn your back on spurs and stop supporting them if the shoe was on the other foot.a journalist ((certainly not)well maybe the daily mail but who couldn't write for that joke of a paper), and instead of a pessimist, a bitter man.

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  5. Absolutley pathetic! Embarrasing article and completely laughable!

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  6. you sound a little upset.

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  7. Being a Spurs fan I have to say this is slightly hypocritical, however, there are some things you just dont want to see at your club, like buying the title, or Luis Suarez, De Jong etc...If they come, against your will, well, then you have some decisions to make...Anyway, I never thought Id say this, but now Id much rather see Arse win it, than City....

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  8. I think the fact that Spurs turned to one of our said "mercenaries" and collection of players in Adebayor is quite funny then when you think about it.

    Moreover, you have missed the fundamental issue that is the ACTUAL real issue. The money City have spent has been the effect of the monopolising of the Premier League for the last 20 years, where the clubs who have spent the most have dominated. Spurs themselves have invested more heavily than their neighbours Arsenal in a pursuit of "the promised land". Ergo, City are an effect, NOT a cause, and for any club like Everton, villa, Sunderland, to stand any chance of breaking into the upper echeleons, it would take similar investment.

    It would actually help as well if you contacted Manchester City and asked them about their work in the community and their plans for significant investment in the local area to see where the true heart of the club rests.

    Then come back and apologise for your childish outburst.

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  9. The bitterness is strong in this one!!!!

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  10. A great, fair and true article on Man City. All Man City fans (including those posting above), must know this to be true, and it must cause them to die a little inside.

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  11. Will this transparent attempt to get more hits on your website lead to more advertising revenue?

    Good for you, times are hard, you do whatever you have to to keep the wolves from the door, including penning a proper load of old tosh and selling your professional reputation down the river at the first opportunity :)

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  12. I thought is it was well written and funny.

    I guess the "bitter" comments are from new readers who just don't get it.

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  13. "And they're not an obvious blue chip target, like Man Utd, Liverpool or, let's face it, Arsenal: a club known all over the world..."

    Yeah, it's a great pity that one of those clubs weren't invested in - seeing as they weren't already in an unassailably privileged position.

    Get real - it's not fair anymore and hasn't been for a long long time. Qualify for the CL a couple of times and you've effectively achieved lock in; you have money that no one else does which puts you above everyone else for qualifying again. This is the main reason that the clubs you mention are so popular throughout the World. Check out the official Facebook pages of these clubs and look how many fans they have. City are now the 5th biggest by some way, no big surprise there - they're attaining more 'fans' by the same vehicle of popularity.

    When you add the above to the CL seedings, that do nothing but help the bigger clubs will get out of the group stages, you can see that fairness doesn't come into it.

    Putting aside even the above, some clubs, like Spurs, have spent a lot of money that had nothing to do with club revenues. So it's inherently unfair and there's no level playing field. All we've done is break into the quango the only way left that's now possible.

    You might not be watching but a lot of people are and more will be doing. The media will congratulate whoever's winning.

    We're happy about it, which fans wouldn't be if they were able to be objective and see through the resentment?

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  14. So pleased you are so bitter, just wait a while for us to dominate European football

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  15. Must confess I'm really looking forward to Davspurs' imminent contribution to this forum, he never fails to entertain!

    In anticipation, here's my response as I've got to go to work in a couple of minutes -

    1-5

    Adebayor

    Redknapp for England/ jail downward spiral, implosion.

    Crap ground never be a big team.

    Rubbish fans always moaning and rioting.

    Pathetic youth academy/policy always buying in the talent.

    Sorry if I've missed anything out, hopefully that should cover most issues.

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  16. Dry your eyes mate.
    Your own owners are not exactly hardcore, dyed in the wool football people, let alone Spurs fans.
    And Spurs are quite happy to use their own relative financial power to take players from smaller clubs.
    This is just more typical hypocrisy we have already heard from the likes of Arsenal, Chelsea and the Trafford Red Sox, which can roughly be translated as "City's spending is not fair, but only when it gets beyond the point that we can compete."
    I think if you want to write something about the morality of football clubs and their owners, you could write something about a team whose manager is facing a trial at the Old Bailey for tax fraud. Or a club which apparently employs private detectives to stalk, bug and go through the bins of people involved in deciding the fate of a stadium miles from that club's traditional fanbase.

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  17. City have used a sledgehammer to crack a walnut.

    "And it's still Ricky Villa!..."

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  18. Utter rubbish.
    I agree wholeheartedly with the last 2 anonymous articles.
    Spurs ?
    Awful ground & supporters.
    CITY are here to stay.

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  19. "Liquid Spurs said...
    A great, fair and true article on Man City. All Man City fans (including those posting above), must know this to be true, and it must cause them to die a little inside."

    this is so true.

    Everytime a City player scores a wondergoal, all us City fans lose a significant portion of our lifeforce.

    Several thousand of us are now officially classified as Zombies after the 1-6 demolition of the Salford Rangers the other week, but on the plus side, we don't have to pay tax anymore as we've officially shuffled off this mortal coil.

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  20. Guess what mate.... the world is watching, check any international news feed sites and City are all over 'em

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  21. Man shitty are pikeys end off

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  22. Fuck off City fans. Your clubs a joke, and you know it.

    "And it's still Ricky Villa..."

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  23. If our club is a joke, it's a bloody good one Mike :)

    Did you hear the laughter when we stuffed you 1-5 in your own backyard?

    HA ha ha ha ha ha ...............

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  24. Gazza "I was on my way to Man U when Spurs called and offered me more money and a house for me Mam and Dad and a sun bed foe me Sister so I went there instead."

    Spuds fans make mke laugh.

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  25. U lot are such bell ends with the money that u lot have got how can u possibly fail ? U can't !! Would b a laugh if Abu dhabi bloke left uld b were u belong in the gutter end off...

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  26. Do you really think City fans care what anyone else thinks. They won't be worrying at all when they start collecting trophies on a regular basis.

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  27. "Anonymous said...
    U lot are such bell ends with the money that u lot have got how can u possibly fail ? U can't !! Would b a laugh if Abu dhabi bloke left uld b were u belong in the gutter end off..."

    You are so right, we cannot fail can we? I'm so glad you pointed that out, thank you.

    Let's hope the Sheik's ten year plan, the ten year Etihad sponsorship and massive investment in the local area, club and infrastructure, not to mention the youth academy, doesn't by some crazy freak accident manage to burn down or something.

    Oooh, I'm so worried now, my knees are knocking.

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  28. It's 'end of' you illiterate buffoon - I'm not sure what else you're talking about, it's virtually unreadable, end of.

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  29. I found this a well written article from a fan tired of where football is going.

    I actually know a few fans who turned their back on Chelsea when Abramovich came along, and I am sure some City fans have done the same. Of course their ranks will grow, because there are always glory hunters. In fairness to City they have actually spent their money on a selection of top quality players who probably will win the League.

    As for those suggesting that us spurs fans are being hypocrites, there is quite a difference between pouring hundreds of millions of pounds into a club, and buying whoever you like under the sun, and running a football club like a business, to actually turn a profit. Whilst still focusing on improving, producing and buying good players, and ultimately trying to be successful.

    I am just looking forward to the day when Abramovich and Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan get bored of football...

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  30. Ur just a bunch of cunts ....

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  31. "I am just looking forward to the day when Abramovich and Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan get bored of football..."

    Could I ask you to hold your breath until such a time occurs?

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  32. Well written and amusing... Loving the Citeh fans reactions too - well played squire.

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  33. You can smell the fear in this article. 5-1

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  34. "I am just looking forward to the day when Abramovich and Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan get bored of football..."

    This is where you're mistaken mate, the investment in City by ADUG is bigger than just achieving success in a football sense. Did you ever stop to consider why they have invested in football? Their aim is ultimately to promote Abu Dhabi in the western world by investing in western business and using said businesses to market themselves to encourage trade links, tourism etc. The reason for them following this route is that the income they generate from the sale of oil will not last forever as the wells are drying up, so they need to find alternative ways to generate income for the future.

    Step back for a minute and think, if ADUG were to walk away from a business venture because they were bored what message would that send out about their integrity to potential business partners in the future? ADUG are here to build a successful self sufficient football club that will eventually give them a return on the massive investment they have made.

    As for the article, BringBackBananas has it spot on. The irony of the article is obviously lost on the writer. I'd laugh if I didn't pity him.

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  35. An article that is titled why the Poznan is a wholly appropriate celebration, and then doesnt even mention the Poznan.

    Very poor article .. sorry meant very poor rant, articles are balanced.

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  36. As a long suffering City fan how great is it to hear the sour grapes from those we will surpass this year. Remember, we won sod all for 35 years and didn't rant on about it.

    Apparently, Poznan was the place where 50 WWII Officers were captured and executed for making 'The Great Escape'.

    Is this what the writer of the article really means by the Poznan......very fitting.

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  37. I really feel sorry for you.... that article smacks of sheer jealousy and bitterness! What a shame!

    So, just to understand fully, if some mega rich, Sheikh like figure came in and bought Spuds, you would want him to NOT spend his money on the team and playing staff?
    I hope for your sake Tottenham dont buy another player ever.... otherwise that would contradict every single word in your blog.

    We spend more than chelsea due to inflation.... have a look at how prices have inflated - in pretty much everything - since the Chelsea takeove. How much has your season ticket price increased since then, and that should give you a rough idea of the inflation rate, particularly in football. Apply that percentage increase to Chelsea spending and you will see that we aren't as bad as you choose to make out.

    Don't worry in a few years, there will be another club, hopefully a Fulham or a West Ham etc. that will spend more than City have done, not because they have bought more players or better players, but because of inflation alone. And then you can direct your petty, immature, bitter and jealous rants at them instead!

    Also, we gave you on loan Adebayor for pretty much nothing, apart from a few quid from yourselves towards his wages.... He's by far your best striker, yet you still choose to bite the hand that feeds.... Unbelivable Jeff.

    Manch£$t£r City :-p

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  38. Spurs fans. Knob heads. Pure and simple.

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  39. Arry's joke Spuds 1 -5 Manchester City FC

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  40. "Yes the manager, tactics, team spirit or whatever might be so appalling"

    Hahahahahaha. The manager, the tactics and the team spirit seemed awful when we were stuffing you 5-1 in your own backyard.

    That, my old china, is what you call a proper HOME SCHOOLING.

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  41. Where were you when you were shit17 November 2011 at 11:56

    Ha Ha Ha.....

    This has to be the funniest thing i've seen in years....

    You Spuds are just bitter and jealous, foaming at the mouth as usual.

    Yes its a bit of a shocker what had happened at City, but I thought you followed you beloved team through the good times and the bad. Us City fans have put up with some awful stuff over the years, down to second division for starters, but we all stayed faithful, we all went to the games still (even though it was away to Torquay on a cold wet winter evening). We've been long suffering through a revolving door of managers and glory hunting players.......so at the end of the day so bloody what if we've had a legit cash injection. It's the way football has gone i'm afraid so if you're gonna get all upset go fishing instead.

    If it had happened like this to Spuds, Arse, Everton, Villa or any other of the bigger clubs you'd all be loving it and enjoying seeing some class football played both home and away (spuds & United demolition come to mind..!)

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  42. I see the Hertfordshire set still hav`nt got over the Lampost`s OG and the 5-1 humiliation on their own shitheap.....never mind eh

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  43. mcfc.....a joke in every dept. a joke with a very rich owner, but a joke all the same. even 'their' celebration is taken from another club. every single aspect of the club, staff, players, 'project' is sureal. like looking at that old slut, alicia duval....she looks human, but somehow after all the money spent altering her face and body.....somehow isnt :-)

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  44. "a joke in every dept."? I'll tell you the funniest of the lot mate, we're currently sitting pretty at the top of the league, joke is on you my friend.:-)

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  45. Fear leads to anger.

    Anger leads to hate.

    Hate leads to suffering.

    Suffering is seeing your us top of the league and spanking 5 goals in for fun against you in your own backyard.

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  46. Yo-yo club................? Thats actually INCORRECT! Only 4 football clubs have spent more seasons in the top division of english football than Manchester City. Them 4 clubs in order are : Everton, Aston Villa, Arsenal and Liverpool. City are joint 5th on the list with Manchester United. Tottenham are nowhere on the list, not even in the top 10. Just face it - Tottenham Hotspur are nothing more than a medium-sized, mid-table non-entity of a football club and will never again challenge Mighty Manchester City. Facts Manchester, facts!

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  47. a moronic post full of embarrassing remarks , obviously not even researched , all the recent top 4 have spent heavily to win the top prizes in football and man spew , the most successful are the worst . take your drivel and post it on liquid brain sours site you deluded retard

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  48. I've lost count of how many times I've been told by raging bitter fans of other clubs that I "know deep down" that our success is hollow, yadda yadda. And yet on matchday when I'm at the stadium, uh... nope! No hollowness, just bliss. We deserve every bit of the success and are heading towards our Golden Age in the most spectacular way possible. No guilt/doubt/hollowness, that is a mythical creation of bitter Spurs (and other) fans like the above desperately trying to make us think we can't enjoy the brilliance at the Etihad with a clear conscience. But we can. We all do. And you can't stop us!

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  49. Also, I doubt you're complaining at having probably the biggest mercenary not named Tevez our club has had, Adebayor, on subsidized wages are you? Hypocrites.

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  50. i love this post!!! evryone is turning there backs on mancity so why you talking about us you bellend!is it because we turned our back on you 5 times at your place and all arry could do was blame modric thats great man mangment! ps enjoy bale becasue he will be pulling on a blue shirt at the etihad or a barca shirt

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  51. Hypocritical bitter nonsense Typical spud c**p

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  52. you are a freakin moron spurs are the joke here you are a bitter little pisspants girl with a massive complex-also when you title a blog about the poznan-it helps to ACTUALLY mention it!!!! what a complete wanker

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  53. hahahah hook line and sinker!!! listen to all these fuckin scummy muslim, 'ethihad' cunts raging on!!!

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  54. Is nowhere to be seen joint 7th ...you knob head

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  55. "hahaha hook line and sinker!!! listen to all these fuckin scummy muslim, 'ethihad' cunts raging on!!!"

    Thanks for the input Mr. Blatter, would you like to shake hands now?

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  56. Dave. When did your blog start to attract such a large following from amongst the literati? I now know how members of the Bloomsbury set must have felt after a hard night of swapping bon mots with one another. While this post was well up to your usual standard, do you think you might go back to writing about something more parochial next time (whatever happened to Steven Pienaar, for example)? Not sure about you, but I prefer to enjoy my bittereness and jealously away from the prying eyes of my intellectual superiors. Keep up the (astonishingly) good work. C

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  57. I'm with Ciaran too, and so is my wife!

    This is an astonishingly well crafted piece which has allowed the City fans a platform on which to display their intellectual superiority over their Spurs counterparts, and for that I thank Dave the Scribe effusively.

    I make the score 1-5 to the Boys in Sky Blue (and I'm only allowing the solitary consolation point for completeness in truth).

    I also agree with using the subject matter of Steven Pienaar as an excellent way of dissipating your new found popularity - watch those viewing figures plummet in minutes, job done, back to clliquey obscurity.

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  58. From where do people get the energy? So many words. Cliquey obscurity sounds lovely.

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  59. where were you when you were shit17 November 2011 at 19:37

    Anonymous said...
    hahahah hook line and sinker!!! listen to all these fuckin scummy muslim, 'ethihad' cunts raging on!!!

    Nice one you fucking twat...keep it classy..!!

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  60. I say Ciaran, why are we bothering with these scruffy northern oiks anyway? Dave, Michael and I are off to our favorite wine bar to discuss RickY Villa's goal again and afterwards it back to mine to play dressing up with my collection of vintage shirts.

    p.s. Is it wrong that I have strange sexual urges when I see David Silva? I dreamt of him last night and had a nocturnal emission. *blush*

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  61. I'm not sure how to score the last post, could be 2-5, possibly 1-6???

    Don't worry, no need to feel self-conscious about your man-love for Senor Silva, we all feel like that too xx

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  62. money's ruining football because it's providing fans with another wrench to make even bigger twats of themselves than ever before, regardless which team they support. all of the above is plain embarrassing.

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  63. Yes Alex, 'cos there's never been any money in football till recently.
    City have certainly got a rich history of dodgy politicians and flashing the cash for well over a hundred years, just like lots of other clubs, it's nothing new, and will always make for scandalising headlines.
    Get over it and get a sense of humour for fucks sake.

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  64. Your figures are missing three years of Abramovich... Spending to try to transform the fortunes of a club is always top-heavy so to make a comparison on that basis is absolutely moronic but that's the general theme of this 'article' to be honest. The title references Poznan but the 'article' draws no comparison whatsoever. You briefly bring up the topic of wages but you clearly haven't expanded upon the point. Perhaps that's because the point would have to be that there's far less of a disparity between our wages and the wages of the rest of the top five/six? In turn, this may point to the real indicator of success at the top of the Premier League which is wages spent - wages correlate far better than transfer fees do. So, do you care to do me a little league table with cumulative wage spending over the Premier League era (and feel free to include our second and third flight wages in the comparison) and see who's spent the most. I suspect City will be mid-table at best on that truer measure.

    I'll forgive you for labelling us as a yo-yo club as we have been exactly that in recent history but City have still spent more time in the top flight than Spurs in their whole respective histories.

    It is also somewhat ironic that you've chosen not to pay attention to us by using your public blog. Rather than mock you such a gaff, I will say thank you for contributing to the growing publicity of the project.

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  65. BOOOOOO it should`ve been us.

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  66. Poor Lickle Citeh scored more goals after 11 matches than any OTHER team in Premiership history, got the best right back in the league, the best keeper in the league, better defensive record than Spuds and their season tickets are TWICE as cheap as 'Arrys ol friends act Kaboul, Kranjer(sp?) Defoe, Crouch.. all bought from Portsmouth.Any bets on Spuds next manager? Rafa? no too little a job for him more likely Owen Coyle.Hows the Champions League going Spuds?


    Money City > Bent 'Arrys joke club.Fact.



    Love Joe Harts Dance Instructor x

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  67. city have the best right back in the league? that's why he made it into the engla... oh wait. shit, my bad...

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  68. the thing that gets city fans, they are trying to convince everyone they are the second coming of jesus and will become the biggest club in the world.

    deep down they know that they will never even be the biggest club in their own city (out of 2 clubs rofl), for as long as united are around. that must really hurt! ouch!

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  69. city have the best right back in the league? that's why he made it into the engla... oh wait. shit, my bad...


    Are you honestly saying you would have Walker over Richards?

    We also have the top scorer and the best player in the league..



    deep down they know that they will never even be the biggest club in their own city (out of 2 clubs rofl), for as long as united are around. that must really hurt! ouch!

    Are you 12?

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  70. Sad to see anonymous commenters still haven't evolved beyond ad hominem spasms in all these years.

    I think SSP was merely questioning how much credit is due when a club achieves success with such disproportionate spending. He may or may not be jealous, but neither view has any bearing on the validity of the question.

    It could be worse, SSP, you could be Mark Bright - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15744902.stm

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  71. richards is overrated, if perhaps you watch kyle walker instead of putting all your players on a pedestal (bearing in mind he shares the rb slot at city with zabaleta who is dogshit). you need to give your head a wobble, and take the rose tinted specs off.

    walker all day long. but i expect you will all suck him off as he is a youth team product at city, you're bound to say he's the best. he's just a big fat turd imo.

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  72. Someone remind me of Citehs PL record against us again?! 5-1 aside, sorry what is your record lads?

    MUGS

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  73. i love how all these city supporters rattle on about 5-1 this and that as if they played anywhere near spurs best side. we were in turmoil with injuries/the modric saga and are nothing like what we were that day. it was just a bad day (i'm not taking away that they played well, there is no way in hell that will ever happen again).

    they make me laugh the amount of times we've raped them, they have very very short memories. at the end of the day, no-one will ever acknowledge you being great, and if that never happens, whats the point in the first place! you'll always be described as the club that finally fucked football.

    End of.

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  74. Reading the posts from the retards who support Shitty is hilarious. Biggest load of fuckwits in the kingdom.

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  75. Man Cunty fans displaying intellectual superiority? What a laugh! Their collective IQ wouldn't even challenge a brain damaged amoeba.

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  76. lots of Spurs fans having a laugh, but I'm not sure they really are.

    Tottenham Hotspurs the tragi-comedic club, sad but true.

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  77. Have they gone yet? Yeah? Good.

    Fucking hell. What a touchy bunch of chippy Northern cunts.

    They're clearly all entirely comfortable with it and not at all sensitive to any accusations of having bought success. We got it all wrong. Good job they put us right.

    Ron

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  78. hello again, not going anywhere, seeing as we now "own" your sorry asses.

    have you seen the massive, record losses City have posted today?

    Losses your tiny team can only dream about.

    Please buy Adebayor so we can comply with FFFP, or don't, we don't give a monkey's either way, Mockney tosspots.

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  79. Who do Spuds play in the champions league next week?

    1 league in 50 years does not make you Barcelona.Fact.

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  80. richards is overrated, if perhaps you watch kyle walker instead of putting all your players on a pedestal (bearing in mind he shares the rb slot at city with zabaleta who is dogshit). you need to give your head a wobble, and take the rose tinted specs off.

    walker all day long. but i expect you will all suck him off as he is a youth team product at city, you're bound to say he's the best. he's just a big fat turd imo.


    Over-rated? he has the most assists in the league for a defender.Is it not a squad game these days?


    Glen Johnson > Kyle Walker

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  81. Your owner is in tax-exile and your manager is a tax dodger. City's owners are investing roughly £1 billion back into the area surrounding the Etihad Stadium which will include producing upwards of 400 permanent jobs for the people of Manchester. Any City fan who turned their back on the club because the new owners invested heavily not only in players but also the community weren't real fans to begin with.

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  82. Just crying because you know you've had your one season in the Champions League and it ain't gonna happen again.

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  83. City have changed a great deal in the last few years. They aren't who they used to be, and they have many more fans than they used to. I think the only thing I am sad for is the true blue mooners that had no time to mourn the loss of what I always believed to be a side with heart and soul. That said, they have put together a world beating new team with a new everything in place. Money talks in football, and man city are certainly making the most of their newfound wealth who needs heart and soul when you have a team full of win.

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  84. You know what annoys me? Both City and Spurs are having a bit of success. A bit of lousy success after having to put up with the shitty times and the more shitty times. And having to listen to the crap from down the road.

    And now you look at this board and you see "fans" having a go at each other.

    I'd rather see Spurs and City in the top three than the Utds, Arsenals and Chelseas. But you know. Concentrate on the negative...

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